It would seem that a 125 grain GDHP is of the same weight and would have a similar profile to what you want to use. YouTube has plenty of reloading channels or the Reloaders Network webpage has more info as well. I have not loaded plated bullets in quite some time, since they are not useful for my accuracy needs. This is my plink load for the kids. 38 spl.s. The .38 Special remains very popular for personal protection and Michelle Hamilton shares her thoughts on the top loads for concealed carry, like this 158-grain SWCHP FBI Load, based on her testing. But you guys need to practice more. I have a long way to go before I'm ready to compete, but enjoy plinking and hand loading. Insufficient crimping ) ARCHIVED. was a breeze. So you only hang onto the primer boxes loosely? With all the loads available, you can surely find one within recoil tolerance. Battis, if you go to the very bottom of this page you will see Castpics. Minnesota. Some use powders dispersed in liquids, some use electrostatic guns to spray dry powder on their bullets. Thx so it seems like for the long line I need to get some sagged bullets. Forget about it. Hence I carry a semi-auto pistol chambered in .40 S&W. One cool load Im working on is two pellets of 000 Buck. If I do carry a revolver its my 642 with a laser grip in my right front pocket or my SW model 69 5 shot 44 mag. This wire is then fed into a machine called a cold header. The SP101 is far more comfortable to shoot but not so much fun to carry. But, with jacketed bullets that doesn't seen to be working. Even at hot .44 mag velocities my Super Redhawk has shiny bore with zero leading. Never ransom rested it, but held 10 ring off sandbags. Powders include IMR, Hodgdon, Alliant, Vihtavuori, Winchester, Accurate The Model 19 is fine with .38s but mildly uncomfortable with .357s. in 158 weight berry's bullet 3.8 grains of bullseye with a taper crimp. Your email address will not be published. The 125 Hornady XTP, a jacketed hollow point bullet that can easily handle 1500 fps velocities. I reached an interesting number the other day. As anyone learns quickly, first thing that needs to be done is to replace the small factory S&W grips (I use Hogue) so you can hold onto the gun. Hehe, back before Nick skimmed down. When you could leave city limits and just about every dirt mound in sight, was a plinking range. Main fame for the .38 is now the J frame size revolvers, as a CCW gun. The plated bullets feed nicely through my bullet feeder. 7.8 gr Blue Dot 1,170 fps 1.43" Fed 100 Alliant Suggested starting load: 7.0 gr Pressure: 15,700 4.5 gr Bullseye 1,085 fps 1.43" Fed 100 Alliant Suggested starting load: 4.1 gr Pressure: 14,900 My brother put CT laser grips on his wifes M36. References: Accurate Arms Co. 1996 Reloading booklet Alliant Powder Co. Reloaders Guide (1995) Hodgdons Basic Reloaders Manual (1996) Speer Reloading Manual, #12 Winchester Reloading Components Manual, 14th edition Lyman Piston & Revolver Reloading Handbook, 2nd edition. Ive been loading 158gr FMJ with Titegroup and the only problem Ive had is getting the seating depth right after the die locknut slipped. Going up to 3.9 Gr for +P. The use of .38 +P+ level (25,000 27,500 psi) type reloads, in .357 brass. In half a dozen different sixguns, it ranged from accurate to spectacular. You can't rely on this because not all variables for YOUR cases and chamber and loading length, etc. 1.455 in. With a charge of only 3.1 grains of Winchester 231 powder, velocities run around 750 to 800 fps with good accuracy and mild recoil. Im new to loading the 38 for accuracy, but the biggest issue I found with case length is your crimp. Heck, 38s in a J frame arent fun- theres no way a 327 Mag isnt worse. There is a difference in the manufacturing process of swaged bullets. Jacketed bullets are not legal for Distinguished Revolver. I have tested both brass and nickel-plated cases using mild loadings and have not yet worn out a case. Classics go well together: circa 1909 S&W .38 Special and traditional 148-grain wadcutter load of 2.7 grains of Bullseye. 110gr JHP! Super cheap and easy to make and would likely be a very effective defense ammo against wildlife that might be a threat to me as the two balls will spread an inch or two from each other at close range. Ive long since changed to a press, but that Lee Loader in its cardboard box is still in a storage box for obsolescent reloading gear. These have a good profile- longer at the top where the middle finger rides, and shorter where the pinkie rests. This is not loaded 9mm ammo. I dont see much conversation on these specifics but I think Its all about the size of the explosion in the chamber. It is a very versatile and useful round. The Pistol a Smith and Wesson model 27-2 The goal is two fold. The load you use will be up to your gun. Hodgdons Clays, International, Universal and HP38 are good choices. I like Bullseye in the 38 Special, and it was a consistent performer with the 125 grain bullets. A revolver shooting .38 SPL only requires the power of your finger to make it fire and can thus be loaded with ammo that is extremely mild or hotter than hot. For any loads over 900-1,000 FPS, I suggest using a jacketed bullet. I meant to say NRA. I just got some clays which I heard was very clean burning compare to bullseye. The beauty of shooting a .38 is that you can easily practice at the ranges you'd fight at using basically any cheap bullet at minimal expense. What I learned after 50 years of shooting and reloading 38spl cases some where around 100 thousands rounds. ES 56 SD 24 PMC Eldorado Starfire +P 125 gr. Wow I learned something vital from this topic. Winchester 231 is between Bullseye and Unique for the .38 special (see my personal load above). He has taught and been responsible for numerous advanced skills and weapons courses within multiple organizations. In my time with the cartridge, I have come to appreciate the mid to low end of the power spectrum and thus have made extensive use of Trail Boss powder and bullets such as Hornadys .358 158gr SWC. Too early Are you sure? Just got back into reloading 38 special again after a long hiatus with no revolver, and was instantly reminded of what a joy it is to reload. (bullseyeforum.net). 357 Magnum 35,000 Thanks to all for the info. Choosing a bullet Many people tend to poo-poo .38 Special (standard pressure) for self-defense as being somehow underpowered. In a nutshell & I mean very short version. . 2 and No. Accurate, powder-puff recoil, and serious power all in one. 32 H&R Mag 21,000 They are low because of swaged bullets. This. That sounds. So . Unlike many other guns Ive owned and carried, this little snubby really cant be modified much beyond factory configuration. Even slower powders may provide more consistent speeds and will be tested in the future (No. .38 special has got to be one of the best calibers there is . 7.) How Do I Choose Good Self-Defense Ammo For My Handgun? swatmag.com is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to Amazon.com. Thats not quite how that works. SASS# 85224. Reduce by 10% to establish a starting charge weight. Ive been reloading and shooting for over 40 years and love revolvers but 90% of the time my carry gun is a Sig 365 with a 12 round mag and a spare. And it isnt my first rodeo with a J-frame. My sq. Smith & Wesson Model 27 .357 Magnum (because no 6-inch Smith & Wesson .38 Special revolver was on hand). After making a healthy pile of brass with this load, I am unlikely to ever be without a few boxes of it on standby. Haven't tried it in the Colt Officer's Model Match yet. Between that, some other info on other forums, Winchester's data for a lead flat point, and numbers from loaddata.com, I think I have some to start with. I get 1000 fps with this load. . This Cast Reloading Bullet feeds great in automatics and has excellent accuracy in both the 9mm and 38 Super. i had the same issues you did when i was trying to load for my DR revolver 14-3. to light of power had a soft recoil but ungodly bad accuracy. I realized that I had hit a very special count for a very special cartridge: 20,000 rounds of .38 Special. Each of the classic loads is also economical. And Vihtavouris N320 and N321 fall in this range for burning times. : 1,266 1,472 Press. One cool load Im working on is two pellets of 000 Buck. Recoil is subjective and I feel no difference between that and an 750-775 fps load. Fast burning and consistent Economical and accurate Principal Purpose: Handgun loads Remarks: America's best known pistol powder. Reloading supplies and load recipes are available everywhere. But one classic target load is not far behind the .38 wadcutter in its own reputation with target shooters: a 200-grain semiwadcutter bottling up 4.6 grains of Bullseye. I had enough, The Model 1911 pistol will officially turn 100 years old on May 5, 2011. Your previous content has been restored. I don't know what bullets you have, but Berry's recommends per their website to use hard cast data for their plated bullets. .38 Special is a lot more comfortable in a service size revolver like my Model 10. I agree, an airweight has snappy recoil. http://www.alliantpowder.com/reloaders/Powder.aspx?powderid=1, I also have the Berry's 125gr plated flat point bullet and I am trying to find a min and max load with unique powder. Anything goes with bullets. My experience has always been with bullseye powder. All right are Reserved Reload Ammo, Reloading The .45 ACP (Automatic Colt Pistol), hi=849 lo=728 ES=122 (powder up and down), hi=821 lo=684 ES=137 (powder up and down), hi=815 lo=637 ES=178 (powder in normal positions), hi=714 lo=549 ES=165 (powder up and down), hi=758 lo=693 ES=65 (powder up and down)(DO NOT USE LESS), Hi=886, Lo=861, ES=25 (This is a Carolina Cast bullet SWC-great cowboy load), hi=859 lo=743 ES=116 *(my personal medium load), hi=875 lo=685 ES=190.2(powder up and down), hi=710 lo=497 ES=213 (powder up and down), hi=791 lo=625 ES=166 (Powder up and down), hi=785 lo=670 ES=115 (powder up and down), hi=801, low=766 ES=35.32 in Contender 14 bbl. Hodgdon gives starting load of 4.0 grains and 4.4 grains MAX. is limited to either the various Charter Arms models, or as a training/target load in a .44 magnum size handguns. ,I looked at Speer data, nothing there. An early Les Baer .45 knotted a group of the lead SWCs into a tight 1.3-inch group, while an M&P .45 did 1.25 inches. WST for .38 special 125 gr plated bullets, Re: WST for .38 special 125 gr plated bullets. Reloading for it came next and it has since become my favorite pistol cartridge. Has anyone loaded 38 special with these compoments? The Bullseye powder pushed five into two inches flat for another 1911 that is typically a four-inch gun. I havent shot too many full house Casull loads, but I get a huge grin when shooting my reduced loads of 7.5grs of Trail Boss under a Cast Performance 360gr WLFN. I make a habit of counting the number of reloads I make by keeping a tally of primer and bullet boxes. I can get away with using it as cast w/ alox. I like the smell of Bullseye, dont mind wiping the handguns down after a range day, and the dark soot that accumulates on my support hand when shooting wheelguns in particular just reminds me to wash up. I just bought some 158 gr SWC bullets that are pure lead. A 158 SWCHP at 850-875 fps from a snub. But this piece isnt about the gun, but rather the cartridge. As I said I am not familiar with your frame and suspect it is one of the latest models out by Smith. I use 2.8-3.0 grains of Bullseye or AA#2 with 158 gr. I first started reloading 40+ years ago at a Lee Loader in .38 Special for a brand new Smith & Wesson Model 66 I had just purchased. 110gr JHP! I, like Spartacus, find the SAAMI recommendations an interesting spec for comparative purposes. You are absolutely correct. I reload a 3 CA Bulldog in .44 with 200 gr wadcutters, to recreate the Man Stopper loads of long ago. .38 brass isnt as common as 9, .40, or .45 brass at the range, but of all the revolver brass you can find its the most plentiful. As I researched loads in the meantime, I kept seeing the same several popping up again and again in sources from as recent as yesterday to long out of print books from when air travel was a newfangled wonder. Note the dark band of lube on the 3 lead bullets. I think the 158 lrn is more accurate then the swc but that's just me. If there is a search function for these forums (didn't see one) I'd be happy to use that too Go to the Alliant website and find the data for Unique and Bullseye. This is good, because the snub takes a lot of practice to have a consistent capability. I dunno. Recoil is mild enough that for many years it was the golden choice for the next introductory step for young or new shooters after rimfire. I carry my M642 extensively, but I only shoot it occasionally because it is a snappy little b!tch with standard loads. Go figure. What sort of wildlife are you thinking would be a good application for this self-defense load? I'm asking the above questions because I don't want to run too hot of a load, but wasn't sure if it was ok to drop down below 2.8 as far as 2.5. Thats what the Cavalry Board asked for over a century ago, and thats what weve got. A light target load, which tends to be very accurate, is about 3.1 grains, with a 158 grain bullet. My best group was .9 inch out of a Model 15. You will find plenty of Red Dot loads there. So I expect recoil would be substantial and not very target-ish. Thinking of using it in NRA Action pistol or PPC. Do you folks think a start at 3.0 gr and work up from there with a 125 gr bullet would be a safe load. At belly button range, very nasty load. 3.) Have you all found different seat depths to work better than what's in the manual? Bonus is that dont need magnum Primers for these reloads. 2.7 GR WST IS TOO LIGHT FOR THE 50 YD LINE. The gun has appeared on TTAG before and has remained unchanged as far as accessories. Canister Sizes: View All Bullseye Recipes So if you find a "lead" load it is also a plated load. load is 4.4 grains for 38 special and 5.0 grains is a +P load. DR loads (158gr Remington swaged LSWC over 3.6gr AA#2 in Winchester .38 Special cases) I shoot American eagle, remington factory,remington umc, and mag tech. 750-850fps. The beauty of shooting a .38 is that you can easily practice at the ranges youd fight at using basically any cheap bullet at minimal expense. A longer case, with have a tighter crimp them a shorter one, what will lead to variations in pressure, and accuracy. My M60 came w/ factory banana grips- open back, long enough for pinkie rest but too small in girth behind the trigger guard. Be careful !!!! This gun now wears factory synthetic grips which are decent but could use more girth behind the trigger guard. Hornady Boolit Grand Master. IT'S A COMBINATION TAPER AND ROLL CRIMP. I have tested both brass and nickel-plated cases using mild loadings and have not yet worn out a case. I have a few 30-30 cases modified to shoot singles with a very light load. Their biggest use is in making screws and small bolts. Josh Wayner is a Michigan native, active competitor, Grand Valley State University alumni, troublemaker, and fiction author. My J frame S&Ws are all older models, and came with the small grips that are still on some models. I have some W231 that I use for my .38 super. Installed some wood boot grips, modified them with grooves at the bottom of each side panel, similar to those on Pach.
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