Football fans can watch the prospects working out at the combine on the NFL Network starting on Friday. Just curious, I dont really understand your post beyond the fact that you have been able to coach some kids to run fast and apparently the rest of the world has not. ?lg|s{8-k3GPf>2S1mc95&-4s3tG+Wod`f'kS|O.oz[,^0gj.w#hu=Lgw4yb8o}?dma>MoM;7r39'6O~y/'CHI$"hX<74^utHX]>?i4 H!-c3XIvE?=)! There has been a lot of buzz on how fast Usain Bolt could run a 40 yard dash, which were fuelled by the Chris Johnsons recent 40 yard challenge to determine the Worlds Fastest Man. Sorry reconditioned should read deconditioned. 440-yard relay to 4x100-meter relay subtract .2 sec. 40 Yard Dash, Featured Story, Track & Field, Witty 100 meters, speed, speed endurance, Usain Bolt. Then again, some 100 meter races are won and lost during those last 8.5 meters! and a quarter horse. onK$@G?BLTV}E14+r4V;/vq30HGA10b50,]^QbV8tAaq.8458]tABG@*O c-]W9_=j zg977/E6Du ~XdnmG#2n{HxS\q]"Loh# yG2!]BLo rFN7*mz@n&-FAeY}Aa]0a Below is a video comparing who is really faster, Deion Sanders 4.17 or Usain Bolt. Right just like WWF wrestlers are really the heights and weights that the announcers always claim them to be. Officially its a .24 difference, but that is only when you have trained officials and they are standing right beside the gun. What event was it. Hell most coaches, cant get them to run a 350m TT. Thus, to calculate a true 40 yard dash potential: You can mix and match the distances and phases around to add up to 40 yards. In track and field the sprinters react to a gun shot, in combines the timer is an electronic laser so the clock doesnt start until the football player leaves the line. Lawrence, Simoni 4.68 Hughes, Jerry 4.69 are you in the weight room, these are things you should be working on now. Lewis, Thaddeus 4.84 I was timed at 4.8 in 8th grade anoher guy was 4.3 and he was so much faster and older looking than any other back inthee league and ran a 10.3 in the 100 yard das (in 8th grade) but I only did 11.2 so i doubt if he ran a 4.3 prob 4.5 and mine was prob more like 4.75 as a timed start in 12th grade was 4.49 for me, which was probably right because an electronic best time in college was a 4.43 and I was done playing football just track. The conversion calculator has been around MileSplit longer than almost any other remaining feature on the site! @Fred I think Usain would be better off playing Rugby! Moeaki, Tony 4.69 Not consenting or withdrawing consent, may adversely affect certain features and functions. The 40-yard sprints at the combine have had semi-electronic timing since 1999. How accurate is this formula? FloSports, Inc. MileSplit New York Editor: And there are other adjustments possible to increase your short sprint time at a cost to final velocity or maintenance. Math is a way of solving problems by using numbers and equations. In the above article,these are elite athletes! Dividing 12.1 by 91.44, we obtain 08 La state championship track & field team. Tebow, Tim 4.72 Im in the northern Sacramento area. 03-24-2005, 12:00 AM. Also, Jackson told ESPN's Dan Lebatard in 2012 that he ran a 4.13-second 40at the 1986 combine that was electronically timed. Its interesting but probably only useful for athletes who have the desire, mental toughness and desire to run the 400 in the first place, which greatly reduces its value as a 400m time predictor. in yards into its equivalent distance in meters. I would submit to you world class sprinter train not only for 40 yards (or rather probably 40 meters) but also 10, 20, 60, and 80 meters. Nothing against Football players, but they dont train for the 100 meters like true 100 meter sprinters. 40y Dash Pace = 03.68. Someone chose 40 yards as the distance a football player needs to run, just like 72 ounces (4.5 pounds or over 2 kilograms!) Kindle, Sergio 4.71 To Joey Fowler You are absolutely correct in your assumptions. It seems that you are arguing with yourself about a tangential matter that youve perceived. I have been with the so called NSCA and what ever certification you want to call it, level 1-3 usatf and they are funny. Convert. It really comes down to faster tracks, not better training. Learn proper running form it helps a lot!! Thanks for taking my email and turning it into this article. Cookie Settings/Do Not Sell My Personal Information. Just like 100m specialize in 100 meters, NFL players specialize in 40 yards or less. Ego aside, how can a football player have a faster time than a sprinter? The 40 is well the 40, it is a test that is used in football but does not tell much about what a football player can do never mind what can be done in a 400. I feel I should have run 47-mid or better, so I definitely agree that the 40-yard predictor is just a guess. Football ( IMO ) is a lot more fun too :). Also,it is very disrespectful for any coach to interfear with another coach athletes even if they are not in training season. For example, USA Today had a front-page storyabout the feat. 4.3-4.4 is only average? There is no intentional hold back on the throttle until you get to 60 meter mentality out there. Usain Bolt and the 100 Yard dash Taking his 9.58 splits from 2009 WC in Berlin, Usain Bolt split 90 meters in 8.75. +tU8e$-O%tU8-5,&)piC*GXu!+,{&4AeNsSD9V@pZ1ZMR0)_KpZf@p/8E86D8;NSE$,2G7NNS`$X:N \^=vd$Fpe(-H/Vu8myr:m?K}X;VU,*KFS9VuU,e Thanks and damn you guys are fast how do you do it??? Ive coached a long time, and spikes rarely add up to more than 0.1 s in a short sprint. Time/Mark to Convert What event was it --Meters-- 55m 60m 100m 200m 300m 400m 500m 600m 800m 1000m 1500m 1600m 1000m 3000m 3200m 5000m 6000m 8000m 10000m --Miles-- 1 Mile 1.1 Miles 2 Miles 3 Miles 3.1 Miles 5 Miles --Yards-- 40 Yards 55 Yards 60 Yards 100 Yards 110 Yards 120 Yards 220 Yards 300 Yards 330 Yards 440 Yards 880 Yards --Field Events . There is a huge difference between hand times( football)and electronic times (sprinters). That is, 100 yards is equal to 91.44 meters (making You, I, and the readers know that is not going to happen because Bolt hates the 400 meter dash and the effort required to excel at itnotwithstanding the advantage of supernatural speed. The problem is World class sprinters take longer to reach top speed because they have a longer acceleration phase. Perhaps he will shed some light on your perceptions. You're just getting developed, someone here may have more knowledge on this than me but when I was 14 a 5.5 was my 40 and I didn't run track or even care about running until junior year, I didn't even start squatting until my sophomore-junior summer because I didn't have the equipment. (In reality, the problem is a nice thing to have, right? I would have to agree with the first comment as this just does not seem to add up. As kids develope on many different levels. If you want to see some sample elite times for the 100 yards, Track and Field News has a nice compilation of the History of US National Championships results for the 100 yards and meters. Put another way, sow me ANYONE who is capable of reaching his maximum speed by 30 meters and I will show you someone who is without question NOT a world class sprinter. What is your best 40 yard dash time and 400 meter time? 3 downs are hard to sell? Thats exactly right. Top-10 lists of the best times and distances in the various combine drills go back to 1999. As Jared Deacon nicely pointed out, speed is the key your 400m is based on your 200 time, your 200m is based on your 100 time, your 100m is based on your 60 time, your 60m is based on your 30 time. if so,what school.What was your best 100 meter time? Copyright 2023 NFHS. But bottom line is guys like Carl and Donovan are still running 100% between 0 and 40m. A]Dp For track and field, the runner will start as soon as the gun has been shot. For example: 155-6.5 would be 155 feet and 6.5 inches. Thank you so much to the developers and everyone else involved, Ive always struggled with factorsing and negative exponents and this app uses the exact same methods we were taught. Thanks, but how fast do you think I can get? If he told me I could, then I would help. However, you should get props for thinking critically. The technical storage or access is necessary for the legitimate purpose of storing preferences that are not requested by the subscriber or user. When I was in HS, College and now in the Masters ranks, I seem to benefit from focusing on my long sprint endurance first and the doing the short stuff. Type in the time or mark in the blank above, select the event or function from the drop down menu, and click convert. You talk as if you know everything, but Im willing to bet you havent produce anything. Look at Carl Lewis and Donovan Bailey their starts and acceleration are average at best. Their results in the various drills will be available almost instantaneously on NFL.com. It's so easy to solve the problem and gets a very acurate answer with all the steps, very helpful app I highly recommend using, but they need to start putting in more problems that they can solve for you. yea i run in california and my best 200 is not good to me its 22.8 im not sure about my 100 and in meets i run the open 400 , 200 and 44. The material on this site may not be reproduced, distributed, transmitted, cached or otherwise used, except with the prior written permission of Advance Local. That you cannot measure with a stop watch or electronics. Edds, A.J. Anyone can give up, it's the easiest thing in the world to do. That is just another conjectural, theoretical model that is CRAP! These guys leave nothing to chance. Comparing a 40 yard dash and a 100 meter sprint is a moot point, but its fun to dissect and analyze. Veldheer, Jared 5.09 If you weren't born with natural speed don't give up because anyone can be fast they just have to work for it and want it, don't half ass anything or you will not get anywhere. 11.17-1.17=10. Newhouse, Marshall 5.00 As for potential in the long run is truely anyones guess. Miller, Lonyae 4.53 Graham, Brandon 4.72 I can't take credit for the formula. Check out some threads by jhawk and its some other guy that has a long thread and is very knowledgable fullback7 read stuff he has on here its all very helpfulit helped me out. Jerry, John 5.15 Hmmmm. 500 Yards 600 Meters 1.40 Three Mile 5000 Meters 1.036 500 Meters 600 Yards 1.13 4x110 Relay (Yards) 4x100 Relay 0.9942 . I wonder what position Mr. Bolt would be the most effective at if he ever had been brought up to play football. It's not true electronic timing because while the clock is stopped electronically at the finish line, it's started by hand on the first movement by the runner. Jackson received a 7 grade for speed, which is the rating for "very good," and not an 8 for "outstanding," and he was timed at 4.1 seconds over the 30 yards from home to first, which, of course, involved getting out of the batter's box after hitting the ball, not exploding from a four-point stance as runners do at the combine. mile relay to 4x400-meter relay subtract 1.1 sec. In recent years, Jackson's 40 has been a subject of comparison to the times of world-class sprintersto show, oddly enough, that he couldn't have run that time and that he most certainly could have. Just run. Youre correct, Jimson. This is something that can be acquired through training. In 1964, Bob Hayes set the WR of 9.1 seconds for 100 yards which was equaled by John Carlos in 1969. And your added comment about the use of foundational muscles (?) NOTE: This procedure is suggested for seeding purposes ONLY, and should not be considered accurate for converting records from English to metric, or vice-versa. I still admire smaller players in college and fewer in NFL that have not only speed, quickness, agility and mental acuity but mental and physical guts to actually suceed in the sport. Thanks for the replies guys, and I aprreciate the estimate of my 40 yard time. It seems these numbers are very fast for 40 yard dash. So, if you have a 10 second 100-yard dash, you are going about 20.5 mph. If it's a short-legged 5-5 guy with great reactions vs. a long-legged 6-2 one, the short guy may beat the big guy to the 40 point every time, but be left yards behind by the time you get to the 100 . SHIN SPLINTS REDUX - Time Heals All Heels, Jim Hiserman - Developing 800m Runners: Identifying, Categorizing and Developing 400m-800m Type Athletes, Jim Hiserman - Developing Distance Runners Volume 2: A Systematic Approach to Developing Individual Success within a Dynamic Team Culture, Tony Holler's "Feed the Cats" Complete Sprint Training Program, Bud Winter & Arthur Lydiard MP3 [Download only]. I meant I was timed 4.6 in8th grade not 4.8 = but probably was most likely only 4.7-4.8. The answer could vary a huge amount depending on who runs it. the distance of 100 yards. I was great even at an early age at the first 10-20 yards but lack body/muscle mass at longer distances to keep accelerating and maibtain speed. To provide the best experiences, we use technologies like cookies to store and/or access device information. Owusu-Ansah, Akwasi 4.47 [deleted] 2 yr. ago. Tight End Dorin Dickerson Houston 7th round My other projects include the Bud Winter Foundation, writer for the IAAF New Studies in Athletics Journal (NSA) and a member of the Track & Field Writers of America. The technical storage or access is strictly necessary for the legitimate purpose of enabling the use of a specific service explicitly requested by the subscriber or user, or for the sole purpose of carrying out the transmission of a communication over an electronic communications network. IFTHEY COULD reach maximum speed by 30 meters THEN THEY WOULD not be world class sprinters. Teams that drafted the player with the best time by position in this years NFL draft: Quarterback Jarrett Brown San Francsicso not drafted but signed Convert 100 Meters to Feet 100.04, 328.22 100.05, 328.25 100.06, 328.28 100.07, 328.31. If youre fast, youll know it. Does anybody ever use a wind gauge when 40 yard dashes are being timed?? The NFL coaches would be drooling. ,+Z =aR3LV![^BRFKz&%AhfV)9K-FnAw}B B A( Fd"F}cbP<4kfy?yT#PQ(CiA2'O?tBvVm;2,Iu a%B)xTpwt){Yd+U.eZ2VKRCdI#Yd: Hes currently at 4. The technical storage or access that is used exclusively for statistical purposes. We are looking at 3.9 to 4.0 hand time performances! 110y = 10.12. The fastest 30 meters ever recorded is 3.60s without a reaction time. Regardless of any skewed times, my Raiders grabbed 2 of the guys who had the best time by their position. The yard conversion factor is simply the result of converting the distance mile medley relay to 1600-meter medley relay subtract 1.2 sec. Multiplying this answer by the race distance of 100 meters, and then rounding to the nearest tenth of a second, the final time becomes 13.2. My other projects include the Bud Winter Foundation, writer for the IAAF New Studies in Athletics Journal (NSA) and a member of the Track & Field Writers of America. 880-yard medley to 800-meter medley relay subtract .5 sec. The question is: Was that time accurate? So do we assign Jackson a 4.36-second time and declare Johnson the combine 40 champ? Lot of paper work and nothing else. Safety Taylor Mays San Francisco 2nd round. The technical storage or access that is used exclusively for statistical purposes. It wouldnt do me any good to give you any tips because when you start training with your coach, he is probably going to do something totally different and that will cause confusion between you and him. T LQDl7*(0d>gIt.h# G2!Q( v Watson, Dekoda 4.56 Campbell, Bruce 4.85 Then, Thus, for a man, a 4.6 40 yard dash is (4.6 seconds x 10) + 2 = 48.0. Also, a sprinter such as Usain Bolt, the comparison runner of choice these days, still will be accelerating 20 yards past the 40-yard mark in a 100-meter dash. I have one other note: I was football/track throughout my career and there are more incentives in football there may well be football flyers who could have competed at the top levels in track but had no incentive to drop the generalist training program of football to do so. Always gave me explanation, helps me breqk down and solve problems. Based on the real splits, especially the 30-40m split where the 40 yard lies, they have yet to reach their top end speed. And finally, what if you subtracted 0.24 from their FAT time to downward convert it to a hand time? Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I quite agree that the first pass comparison (subtract start, find average speed, extrapolate, add back start) is too simple to make accurate comparisons, and misses the boat for the 60y or 60m dashes because the finish line comes before the end of the acceleration phase for the top sprinters (but just barely) and there is no Maintenance in those races. Lots of speed this year for the Bay Area. What does an 11.3 100 meter time translate into for 40 yard? There's your answer. <>/ProcSet[/PDF/Text/ImageB/ImageC/ImageI] >>/MediaBox[ 0 0 612 792] /Contents 4 0 R/StructParents 0>> Since this is the case, you can't just do a mathematical extrapolation. 4.37 Suppose a person runs the 100 yard dash in 12.1 seconds. 4 0 obj In your regular season, you should run as many 4 x 100 relays,100-200 races as possible. Go to the link and check out their other workout test results. Usain is credited for the 150 meter World Record. With Decide math, you can take the guesswork out of math and get the answers you need quickly and easily. There is obviously a cross-over between the two sports. Periodend of story. 0.45 seconds is huge! Plus you have to figure out how to train that particular athlete. endobj (Shades of Donovan Bailey and Michael Johnson circa 1997 come to mind. Chaney, Jamar 4.54 Take that time and multiply by 3.66. Whether you are talking about 2 yards, 5 yards, 10 yards, 40 yards or even 60 yards, EVERY position on the field relies on speed/quickness HEAVILY and 99% of the time 40 yard and less speed is MUCH more important than 100 meter speed, so that is what they train for and they train their asses off lol. It is an all-out sprint at 100% no less. Subtract 0.24 from FAT to HT, and you are looking at 8.6 or 8.7 hand time. Long, Scott 4.46 These guys are fast but no sub 4s yet. Does anyone else take into consideration the surface where the 40 is run and the shoes that are worn? I understand your desire to contribute, Mary, but you are wrong on numerous levels beginning with your understanding of football. There is no real strategy : you dont conserve your energy for the last 30m, you dont change your strides deliberately etc.). It all matters. 2. To provide the best experiences, we use technologies like cookies to store and/or access device information. As track and field athletes know, there is a big difference in using electronic time versus hand held timing. McCourty, Devin 4.48 HOWEVER, for old-time football players who ran on grass in cleats, the adjustment factor is probably MORE than the reaction time adjustment. To provide the best experiences, we use technologies like cookies to store and/or access device information. I am not sure whether the table is for 30 meter time or 40 yard dash time. Peace One Day, September 21, 2009 - Adidas and Puma Celebrate, Jim Hiserman - Developing 800m Runners: Identifying, Categorizing and Developing 400m-800m Type Athletes, Jim Hiserman - Developing Distance Runners Volume 2: A Systematic Approach to Developing Individual Success within a Dynamic Team Culture, Tony Holler's "Feed the Cats" Complete Sprint Training Program, Bud Winter & Arthur Lydiard MP3 [Download only]. If you dont believe it just ask him. The extrapolations are apples-to-oranges comparisons. But without the stamina (and to some degree youre born with that potential wise), and the raw drive and toughness you still wont run well. 330-yard LH to girls 300-meter LH subtract .2 sec. It is equal to 100 centimeters, 1/1000th of a kilometer, or about 39.37 inches. Essentially, reaction time must be accounted for when calculating these times. This article is aimed for readers born before 1960 when running 100 yards was the norm, especially in the USA. The track at Seoul 1988 was nowhere near as fast as todays hard tracks favoring sprinters. endobj In the second instance, the 400 meter race has a large component of fitness (stamina). A nice, succinct way of raising a point would be: For world class sprinters, what is potentially the shortest length someone could reach their max speed while sprinting? This app is amazing it really helps me in my math class. Type in the time or mark in the blank above, select the event or function from the drop down menu, and click convert. For example: 155-6.5 would be 155 feet and 6.5 inches. years ago, on some tv program, there was a sprint race between an Olympic sprinter (Calvin Smith?) In order to convert from [m] to [m]. `qpM:>i(%!Pw]] ]usbuausC]AU6"-Z ].|e=rXl(o2*7k.u;A8p&*Lmuwu You guys are acting like professional football players are just a bunch of muscleheads/entertainers playing a game and that they dont focus on speed like sprinters do when the exact opposite is true. Location: Beloit, Wisconsin, United States, Location: Glenmora, Louisiana, United States, Location: Lafayette, Colorado, United States. I wish they had a contest to see who could produce the fastest boy sprinter in 6 months and let all the athletes have equal times and ability, I would make you guys look like a fool! In order to convert from [m] to [m] . In the 100m, you accelerate as long as possible to reach top speed, then maintain top speed. Most of the great 40y times that you hear about in football are hand times. 3.674s (the first 30m) + 0.57s (the final 6.576m) = 4.24s 4.24s - 0.10s (the recorded "fastest" reaction time) = 4.14 second 40-yard dash Consenting to these technologies will allow us to process data such as browsing behaviour or unique IDs on this site. How many football/track guys with (great 40 yard times) run a good 400 meters? But possible some are legit. But I doubt not much than a handful below 4.4 or 4.5. I made my point 3 different was and still failed to be clear. I dont see anything unreasonable about their times. Mary was correct about the rationale for the 40 yard test, you can look it up. The 40 yard dash is similar: your goal is to get to the 40 yard line as fast as possible from a motionless position. I, myself, have no idea but it would be interesting to find out with regards to each individual sprinter. What is a good time in the 70 meter dash? But to hold it together when everyone else would understand if you fell apart, that's true strength.. http://www.nfl.com/combine/top-performers, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xbs-aWxyLk, IFAC 2022: The Return of In-Person Conferences (with Virtual option), Here is our 400m Discussion Recording over 2 Hours Long, The Best Free Coaching Book post Beijing 2022 Olympics, The Ultimate 400m Track Webinar for Coaches & Athletes, NACAC Athletics Coaching Science Series 2022, Top Six 400m Predictor Workouts (Number 4 is my Favourite), Why Karsten Warholms 45.94 400mH WR is my Highlight of 2021, Sprinting: 10 Research Articles for Effective Sprint Training [Part 23], Pressure in Sports Reflections from Tokyo 2020 Olympics, the 0-10m segment is the same as the 100 meters (Phase 1), the 10-20m segment is an average speed of the 10-30m segment in a 100m (Phase 2), the 20-30m segment is an average speed of the 30-50m segment in a 100m (Phase 3), the last 6 meter segment is a pro-rated speed of their top end speed (50-60m) in a 100m (Phase 4). Just multiply by 10. I am a Masters Athlete and Coach currently based in London UK. What school do you run at, if you dont mine telling me. Anyway, no disrespect to proponents of either side. Bless you but your and Marys irrational conclusions dont make them correct. To Marys point, football players might be known for good acceleration because that is critical to a 30-40yard carry. If you want to improve your academic performance, try studying with a friend. Roberts, Andre 4.46 Community Rules apply to all content you upload or otherwise submit to this site. According to Clyde Hart Michael Johnson rarely did speed work and much of his routine looks like 400/800 or at least a 400mh. A civil tone when addressing others regardless of where the true balance lies is often a virtue. In 1986, when Jackson ran his combine 40, Calvin Smith was the world's fastest human, and his world-record 100-meter time of 9.93 seconds would be 3.63 seconds when reduced to 40 yards. Instead, they begin running when they are ready. Why? x = 40 time x/2.54 + 2x ~ 100m time Charlie Francis Community Forums 40yard dash to 100 meter time converter Players that post the fastest 40 times are often decorated collegiate sprinters as well and could have had tremendous careers in track so its not that surprising that the fastest NFL players post world class 40 times because thats what they train extremely hard for.
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