A few manufacturers offer bolt action rifles chambered in the 300 BLK. Lets explore all this caliber has to offer including an in-depth look at 300 Blackout Ballistics. On some guns, the short case can simply snap out from under the extractor if using a constant tension spring type ejector. Just sayn, I switched to LilGun for 220RN sub groups we t down to under 1 MOA cycles 26 bbl great. H110/W296 is a great powder for the 300 AAC Blackout however I have found in both of our uppers that it is not a good powder for subsonic loads. The .300 cartridge uses the same powder as large caliber handguns, such as .44 & .45's. <>>> We continue to prioritize our shipments to our traditional sales channels to maximize powder availability at retailers. Vortex to take over customer service and support for the app. I use it for my 220gr subsonic 300 blk loads. Supersonic loads allow you to use lighter bullets and reach higher muzzle velocities. Highly recommended, I reload for my 300 Blackout very clean burning powder and accurate, great for .357, .41, and .44 magnum pistols. Feeds well in my Hornady progressive press. The 300 blackout round is prominent in hunting and personal defense by tallburnedmidget Sat Dec 14, 2013 6:54 pm, Post Close range only. velocities averaging 1,040fps in most 16" guns using the 194gr ME bullet, Federal small rifle primer, and 2.200" COL: Powders For the 300 blk. Seeing the economic potential of the fast-growing firearms industry, Winchester began to assemble investors and secure venture capital, and in 1857 bought a controlling interest in the Volcanic Repeating Arms Company from two inventive gentlemen named Horace Smith and Daniel B. Wesson. One of the benchrest guys I know asked how I liked my 300 BLK rifle. Either way, I think we can all agree both are good. load data. The loads shown below are only considered safe in the test gun! Caution is warranted here. Subsonic rounds are particularly suited for use with a suppressed carbine. Of course, you need a reloading press. This cartridge was designed from the ground up to provide adequate performance in both supersonic and subsonic applications, making it highly versatile and adaptable. powder: A1680. What could be the problem with the load in the 16.5 ? RL-7 seems to work somewhat with subsonic loads in Carbine (which will work for pistol) gas systems with maybe a few bolt hold open (BHO) issues but that may not bother too many. Where 180-grain subsonics are concerned, so far Ive had good luck with Reloder 7. Advanced Armament Corporation began developing a .30 caliber subsonic cartridge optimized for the M4 platform in 2009. Whereas the fixed distance competition shooter may be fine with higher magnification and precise .125 MOA adjustments, the military/law enforcement/tactical shooter is []. Most data I have seen specifies small-rifle magnum primers.At some point, you may want to know how fast your .300 Blackout bullets are actually going. and 8 lb. If you need greater amounts of ammo, you may want to look at a turret or progressive press. In my Palmetto State Armory 7.5 upper the load functions perfectly ! 6.5 Creedmoor load development: Sierra 130 grain Tipped MatchKing (TMK) with H4350, Varget, Reloder 15 and Reloader 17, First impressions ofthe Modular Driven Technologies (MDT) HS3 Chassis system. It is an effective way to obtain ammunition for lower prices than equivalent factory ammo. The 300 Blackouts sleeker bullet has a higher. Want a subsonic load using reloader 7 or h4198? We may receive commissions on purchases from a link. 300 Blackout 125 GR NOS BT Hodgdon Trail Boss .308" 2.060" 300 Blackout 135 GR SIE VAR HP Hodgdon Trail Boss .308" 2.055" . A supersonic 300 Blackout round with a 110 grain bullet has a muzzle velocity approximately 1,000 fps slower than that of a 223 Rem, giving it a significantly faster bullet drop. Groups were 5 shots (unless otherwise indicated) at 100 yards. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. This I usually get from GI Brass Locker, though there are other sources out there.Primers will be whatever is prescribed in the load data that you obtain. = Subsonic Maximum load: 11.0 grains (ca 1100 Fps) = Subsonic Don W. CSR 406-234-0422 www.westernpowders.com I have some other common pistol powders like lil gun, bullseye, and titegroup but would like to hear what you guys use for the 147 pills. Some of the other guys may back me up on this, I haven't found any supersonic loads that don't deliver at least one inch groups in the Blackout but the subs are a different story. Please take the time to read the disclaimer below and note that this data was gathered in a bolt action rifle and NOT a semiautomatic rifle. Very versatile. The low case capacity requires the use of powders with a fast burn rate like H110 and IMR 4227. Not sure on charge weight but I know there is plenty info out there at, Those would be first hand from those guys. 01-26-2013, 07:53 AM #9 bmiller Boolit Buddy 300 Blackout is taking the shooting world by storm, and for good reason. The standard 5.56 NATO Magpul PMag on the left shows the second round nosed down in the magazine due to binding. JavaScript is disabled. ES -----174 fps. As mentioned, it should NOT be reduced. IMR4198 approx. It isnt hard to save yourself roughly a third of the cost of a box if youre used to buying quality ammunition. Prior to building a custom bolt action rifle in 300 BLK I did a lot of homework on loads and load development. You all show older data in the 300 using lil gun for a load workup option. The relatively fast burn rate makes it suitable for loading various varmint and intermediate rifle cartridges with limited case capacity, such as .22 Hornet, .221 Fireball, .222 Remington, or .300 Blackout. In contrast, subsonic .300 Blackout is ballistically very close to the Russian 9x39mm, the 2 often being compared to the point that bullet drop data and points of impact are virtually identical from 0 to 200 meters. So Remington will be budget-priced UMC-brand 300 BLK ammo through at just $12.99 per box that's less than most other rifle cartridges than are more powerful than the .223. It is a classic reloading powder that should be on the shelves of any handloading enthusiast. load was compared because I loaded the same powder charge for them , a year ago. Powders for subsonic single shot, bolt action, Lehigh defense 110gr controlled Chaos factory load. How do you guys get different data for Win 296 and H110? by bangbangping Sat Dec 14, 2013 4:30 pm, Post Again, if youre using .300 Blackout ammo in a gas-operated, semi-automatic rifle, youll have less flexibility in powder, since the gun needs enough gas to cycle reliably. Corncob media is fine for most brass. It set the standard. The Best Self Defense Ammo Ballistic Testing, The 300 AAC Blackout delivers ballistic performance comparable to 7.6239, yet possesses a base diameter that optimizes functionality in an AR-type platform. These are powders that are typically marketed to the magnum pistol crowd, not the rifle folks. I fired these in a Remington 700 at ninety yards without the suppressor attached. While subsonic loads are technically possible with W296, you should avoid them because it is too easy to reach dangerous overpressure levels with this powder. Most shooters use it in varying capacities from 200 yards or less. Subsonic 300 Blackout. You can purchase factory-new brass made by Hornady or Remington. The rifle, as pictured above, includes the following parts fromBrownells: For testing and evaluation purposes, I used 125, 135, 175 and 220 grain Sierra MatchKings (left to right in photo below) over H110 and IMR 4227 powders. 0. We were even close for a short time. Oliver Fisher Winchester was an innovative and driven man who saw the future of firearms and built an industrial empire around the lever-action rifle. They instead heavily based their new cartridge on SSK Industries 300 Whisper. Onm4>#wgfYcX+x;^!%w Gpho?w3x[:gb@UC8|tKn). Required fields are marked *. Baton Rouge. The 300 Blackout cartridge is known for providing a wide range of bullet weights and velocities much to the chagrin of bullet drop compensating scope reticle designers. My TSAR 11.5 upper is flawless so far. Ive been using Modular Driven Technologies Chassis systems for nearly four years. 300 BLK Load Data warriorsociologist, I don't currently have any 147s on hand. Thank you. The 300 bulk is an underpowered cartridge-on par with theM1 carbine of WWII- but not as easy to wield. The CCI 400s are more than capable of getting a full burn in a 300 BO, and pressure issues are really very minimal in 300 BO because it really is a relatively low pressure load. Always start [] 243 Outdoors. Pingback: NEW: Sierra Bullets .300 AAC Blackout Reloading Data - AK Arms, Pingback: NEW: Sierra Bullets .300 AAC Blackout Reloading Data | Firearms Life, They should. Available in 1 lb., 4 lb. The following are loads that Lehigh Defense recommends for the 194gr ME bullet. I have complete faith in my Lord. W296 is also viable for reloading .300 Blackout, although it is best suited for supersonic loads only. This data is intended for subsonic use in firearms with barrel twist rates appropriate to stabilize the bullets listed. The typical range of bullet weights runs from about 110 grains all the way to 240 grains.For brass, you have some options. Sierra Bullets 300 AAC Blackout Load Data, NEW: Sierra Bullets .300 AAC Blackout Reloading Data - AK Arms, NEW: Sierra Bullets .300 AAC Blackout Reloading Data | Firearms Life. or 5.56 NATO chamber. If you are using heavily soiled range-pickup brass, youll need the more aggressive walnut-hull media.All in all, youll have some upfront costs but if you shoot a lot of .300 Blackout, youll find the break even point in short order. The .300 Blackout is an intermediate rifle cartridge, just like 5.56mm NATO and 7.62x39mm. However, it is listed in the 2017 and later printings. There was a problem loading the comments. They are a lot more economical for plinking than spending the money on the Sierras. The two key features that make the 300 BLK excellent for the AR platform, make it difficult to work with in a bolt action rifle; a short case and use of both super and subsonic bullets. Get free updates when we add new tips, articles and more! It has since become popular for a wide range of uses including hunting and home defense. Ive seen somewhat large quantities of ammo loaded on a single stage, but it is time-consuming and sometimes involves bribing children to do things like checking it all in a case gauge (be sure to check your states child labor laws). In many ways, it is the anti-rifle cartridge. 300 Blackout 220 GR SIE HPBT Winchester 296 .308" 2.260" . I worked up a load and settled at 9.8gr of 296 which turns out to be an exact load listed by Winchester on their load data website. Using bullets from Barnes TSX FB, Hornady V-Max, Sierra Hollow Point, Nosler Ballistic Tip, Sierra Spitzer SP, Barnes TSX BT, Sierra MatchKing HPBT, Hornady MonoFlex, Hornady GMX, Speer Grand Slam, Speer Mag-Tip, Sierra Palma HPBT, Hornady SST, Hornady A-Max. stream With the opening of the American West to settlement and the ongoing military conflicts in Europe and the Near East, the demand for Winchester firearms and ammunition remained strong. Be sure to store them away from anyone you think may try to use them in place of a crescent wrench. It doesnt have to be fast or super accurate, just looking for a cheap plinking round, Lil gun will work for you. The D&H Tactical magazine on the right shows no such issue with the 180-grain Rainier Ballistics FP, due to having shallower front ribs in the magazine. and 8 lb. The 300 AAC Blackout (300 BLK) is a popular alternativecartridgein the AR-15/M16 M4 (AR) community. The latter has nearly twice the propellant, and is therefore better able to fell very distant game. LBT heat treated solids and max charges of 296 are a super penetrator for large dangerous game! The Latest In Reloading, Straight To Your Inbox Keep up-to-date on new products, trends and tips from the leader in reloading. It provides similar effectiveness to the 7.6239 or the slightly more powerful 30-30 cartridges except works in the more up-to-date AR15 platform. I use a Dillon Precision XL650 and Ive been happy with it.Once you have your press, youre going to need appropriate dies. As with IMR 4227, Hodgdon obtained the following load data using a 16 barrel with a 1:8 twist rate, Hornady cases trimmed to 1.363, and Remington 7 1/2 Small Rifle Magnum primers. Often powders that are way to slow to be used effectively in the 300 blk. However, that can be problematic, as the shorter length can also make it easy for a loaded .300 Blackout cartridge to be chambered in a .223 Rem. Serving as optimal powders for their intended cartridges. We do not take backorders and our Tech Services team cannot take orders via email or phone. Sign up to get updates and access to exclusive promotions. It was originally created for Winchester .410 shotgun factory ammo, but found use in 30 Carbine and magnum pistol loads. (r.). Powders that have been tested and tried by others. However, it is listed in the 2017 and later printings. Other companies, such as Hornady, also have a variety of projectiles available ranging from light to heavy weight for the caliber. * All prices incl. The more we all know, the better organized and stronger the shooting and hunting community will be. containers. Have experienced some unstability problems with cans and 1:8 barrels with 220 gr sierras. Such loads tend to deliver more consistent performance, resulting in fewer muzzle velocity variations between each shot. Technical Specifications (based on the respective safety standard - see more details in tab "Datasheet" if available) Subscribe to the free newsletter and do not miss any news or promotions. It is mankind I have no trust in. VISIT THE RDC BALL POWDER In 1929, the Western Cartridge Company (forerunner of Winchester Ammunition) received U.S. Patent #2,027,114, issued to Western Cartridge as "Manufacture of Smokeless Powders." Hand load data for reloading .300Blk using projectiles from 110 grains to 230 grains with appropriate smokeless powders from Hodgdon, IMR & Winchester. select rifle cartridge and then 300 AAC Blackout Lists loads using: IMR 4227 (subs and supers) W296 (subs and supers, however may not function some carbine systems with subs. Avg. These seemingly small differences are significant. If youre only feeding a bolt-action rifle or only slow-firing an AR-15, then a single-stage press, such an RCBS Rock Chucker, will work. Most quiet but not functional (w/o lighter springing): Not only does this allow for compatibility with existing magazines and bolts, but it allows reloaders to form their own brass from cut-down 5.56mm or .223 cases ensuring brass supply even in the event of a shortage of factory brass. W296 is more than similar, it IS H110. Some people have chosen to load their ammo shorter to remedy this. : 1,867 2,110 Press. Factory reloading info from Hodgdon's website as of Spring 2015. Winchester 296 Recipe Source: ALL Alliant Powder Hodgdon Shooters World VihtaVuori Starting Max Source 85 gr RN (Sierra) 0.308" Powder: H110 (Hodgdon) Primer: CCI 400 Case: WIN Trim Length: 1.285" C.O.L. . To save a bunch of questions, you may want to add W296 next to H110, with a note that they are the same powder. Rainier Ballistics has introduced plated 180-grain bullets for subsonic use only. Come join the discussion about fishing guides, bait, safety, gear, tackle, tips, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. For lightweight supersonic loads IMR 4227, Hodgdon CFE Black, Hodgdon H110, Winchester 296 and Alliant 2400 are good options. An ideal solution for loading 357 Magnum, 44 Magnum, and even 410-bore shotshell ammunition, its high loading density provides optimal velocity. They are only safe in the rifle shown and may not be safe in yours. Intended primarily for high case capacity, high-power cartridges such as .454 Casull, .475 Linebaugh, and .500 S&W Magnum, it has also been used successfully for decades in certain rifle calibers, such as 7.62x39mm and .300 Blackout. 1 MOA. There are many good reasons to reload for .300 Blackout. A better solution to this problem is to use the .300 Blackout-specific magazines made by D&H Tactical and Magpul.A couplenice-to-have items that are not necessarily required for reloading .300 blackout are a brass tumbler and brass separator. The LGSs by me that carry VV can not get 120. An Instruction/Load data Sheet for the 300 Blackout die set can be purchased through the link below. Most have reported it will not work for pistol systems either) H110 (subs and supers, however may not function some carbine systems with subs. LOADS LESS THAN MINIMUM CHARGES SHOWN ARE NOT RECOMMENDED. I generally use a balance-beam version, as its less expensive, but if youre inclined to spend more money, you can opt for a digital. Take your pick. (296 and H110 are verified the exact same powder, just marketed under two different brand names.) Ultimate Reloader is not responsible for errors in load data on this website. 0. My preference is the dial version, as they dont require batteries and also probably because Ive been using them on and off for most of my adult life. Copyright: All Rights Reserved Available Formats Download as PDF, TXT or read online from Scribd Flag for inappropriate content Free shipping for all bulk orders. While the powder formulas are identical, the chrono testing is likely from different production lots. I save Lil' Gun for subs. Duane Siercks, Ballistic Technician. Case capacity is critical with .300 Blackout. It is also suitable for .221 Fireball, 6.8mm SPC, and 7.62x39mm if you happen to reload for these cartridges as well. Never miss a post! I think 296 and 4227 are the same powders, not 100% sure though. works like a charm. Quick Load program is, buy their own admission should NEVER be used over ANY published data. All this suppressor talk does not apply to 98per cent of the public. There are offerings from Sierra with one of the notables being their 220-grain MatchKing. Depending on the weight and length of the bullet selected, the amount of space available inside the case may change dramatically. : 26,000 34,800 CUP Hodgdon 85 gr RN (Sierra) 0.308" Powder: H4227 (Hodgdon) loads were well over the stated FPS in the loading data of 2100 fps. You might think I carry a gun because I don't trust God. Although they are more recently developed cartridges, lots of people love lil' gun in 460 Magnum and in the rifle cartridges 300 Blackout and 450 Bushmaster. Born in Boston in 1810, Winchesters initial foray into business was as a maker of mens shirts. This can lead to poor accuracy from lighter loads. Shot about 300 this weekend. In contrast, a 220-grain bullet ideal for subsonic loads, like Sierra MatchKing 2240, possesses an overall length of roughly 1.49. Plenty of nice loads available for many components. Converting an AR-15 to fire 300 Blackout is as simple as swapping its barrel. The 110 grain Blackout at 2,375 feet per second yields 1,377.4 foot-pounds of muzzle energy to the AK's 1,650.8 at 2,600 feet per second. Copyright Ammotogo.com 2023 All Rights Reserved. JP silent spring, 1 1/2 MOA . At this point, I will say, Im not a fan of plastic calipers, as the material involved is just too prone to damage, and Ive always been skeptical of their accuracy. This one seems to reign as a favorite, but it isnt cheap. Click here to download Sierra Bullets 300 AAC Blackout Load Data for the 5th Edition Manual. [ETA] QuickLoad says if you want your blackout to go faster, reduce bullet weight (175 gr SMK) and run about 17gr IMR4198. IMR 4227 is suitable for supersonic and subsonic loads. Has N120 been discontinued? Ramshot Enforcer is a high-performance, double-base spherical propellant intended for high-power handgun revolver cartridges, such as .44 Magnum, .454 Casull, or .500 Magnum. Links to published Data added. W296 is also viable for reloading .300 Blackout, although it is best suited for supersonic loads only. AR-platform rifles optimized to run subsonic 300 Blackout tend to fire supersonic ammo poorly. Rather than having a steep shoulder and overbore case, like the 20 Vartarg (a 221 Remington necked down to 20 caliber), it has a relatively straight design that requires fast magnum pistol powders. The chief difficulty in accurately firing 300 Blackout comes from learning to accommodate its pronounced bullet drop. Vol. More about this powder: Winchester 296 is a ball powder developed for large handgun loads. This is particularly helpful when loading subsonic ammunition as you can make sure your bullet speeds are still below supersonic velocities but as close as to those velocities as you can get. Does Lee offer a Powder Thru Expanding Die for the 300 AAC Blackout. There are different opinions about the need for magnum primers with H110 in 300 BLK. The target was a 2 orange dot printed on paper. Second stupidly and even dangerously compressed loads Size -- Quantity No reviews found. Remember sib sonic loads are only a 100 yd load. Although all Ramshot propellants are made in Belgium at the PB Clermont factory, it is a Hodgdon brand, benefitting from the companys decades of experience in smokeless powder manufacturing. This may be ongoing and won't necessarily be complete for a while. We have the best 296 Winchester Powder For Sale here at Worldly Armory for a very Cheap and Affordable Prices. As Im sure you noticed, some powders handle a fairly wide variety of bullet weights. The 300 Blackouts .30 caliber bullet can be made especially long, and as the result may weigh up to 220 grains quadruple the weight of the typical 223 Rem rounds. At worst, it puts you at risk of extreme and life-threatening overpressure. Most accurate and functional: 10.0gr AA1680, WSPM @ 2.180 OAL - 1,025 fps. You may have a great load that is pushing max and loading from an 8lb keg, and a few years later you buy another keg. I went back and read my notes. Silhouette shooters claim it is the most accurate 44 powder they have ever used. Thanks, The data is all wrong anyway. There tends to be a lot of newer 300 blk owners, and re-loaders joining lately, and I believe that will continue to grow. 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Share your experiences with other customers. They first looked to the 7.6239 for inspiration. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); If you guys had bothered to ask people what powder they would like to see lil gun would definitely be on that list. I have used this program for years and tke it with a very large grain of salt! All CFE powders are double-base, spherical propellants designed to perform 2 tasks: For example, CFE-223 is optimized for .223 Remington, CFE Pistol is best suited for commonly-used pistol cartridges (9x19mm, .45 ACP) CFE-BLK is designed for .300 Blackout. Ive read people just up the charge of 1680 but it doesnt seem that great and want to keep that for my subs. Never seen that with 1:7 rifling twist. Johnny's Reloading BenchAn idiot and his reloading press My affiliate links and donation . I explained to him he wouldnt really have a 300 BLK anymore. Note: H110 loads should never be reduced by more than 3%. The 300 AAC Blackout (300 BLK, or 7.62x35mm) was created by Advanced Armament Corp. and Remington in order to provide the military with a way to shoot .30 caliber bullets from the M4 platform with only a barrel change. Hodgdon H110 is identical to Winchester 296; it is simply sold under a different label. Cartridge Filter By Bullet Weight Powder Type
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